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My company has teams and slack and IT wants to switch to all teams. The thread where they announced this had to be locked. :D I don’t know how a trillion dollar company can’t get this right. Worst yet the bundle that shit with everything and overworked IT depts pick it by default.
lmao, based. Discord too.
I mean, with winter coming in, and universities not bothering to heat the building, teams turning my potato work laptop into a furnace is the only thing keeping us warm this winter…
Serious question - is their long term strategy bad optimisation to sell hardware? Do they have shares in intel or something?!?
Use the browser version in Edge. That and outlook are the only two things I’m using that browser for, and it works great. The standalone software is an utter disaster.
“Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.”
Mega corporations that only hire contract workers with no morale or investment in the long term success of the company (because the majority of their efforts are purely to appear shareholders) are not equipped with the means to put out decent products.
Passion, dedication, investment in workers, and long term talent are what create remarkable pieces of software. Microsoft has none of this because these things are incompatible with the directives of infinite growth shareholder appeasement. Want extra time for QA? nope, that would reduce profits. Want to pay higher salaries to attract better talent? Nope, that would reduce profits. Want to adequately reward employees in ways they actually connect with like raises and bonuses? Nope, that would cut into the boss’ annual bonus and he needs his new vacation home more than we need to afford rent.
There is an optimal level of profit chasing and company size within which excellent software can be produced, and Microsoft exceeded those thresholds years ago. There is also an optimal phase of capitalism that is conducive to quality innovation and development, and we’re well past it.
web version is not as bad as the official client tbf
( even on Windows i was using sth called teams-for-linux (despite the name its actually cross platform) which is an Electron wrapper around ms teams, bc the official client was crashing/freezing the windows audio service somehow)
What is crazy is that Mac version is more stable than windows in my experience. Still shit, though
I have an office account for work. I don’t happen upon the troubles people report here. I couldn’t leave MS as I basically use all their stuff for work (and so do the several other hundreds of employees here). But teams does work well: texting, videocalls with 100s of participants, recording meetings, file repositories
I use teams every day. My only gripe recently is the messages like “look the wonderful things we did to improve it” that I didn’t need and will probably never use, but I press the little X don’t know don’t care
I feel similarly. I work in an office that’s heavily invested in Microsoft for everything and when you use Microsoft everything Teams fits in really nicely with great outlook integration, Microsoft Loop integration, etc. and the experience on Teams is fine
Also the surveys after eveey call. Drives me crazy. And the weird file editor, never edit PowerPoint slides in Teams.
And the way it absolutely freaks out when the computer is in standby.
You put more effort into this post than M$ did to their product
Thanks, your bill is in the mail.
I love how they rolled out the new upgraded Teams and it’s still awful!
yes
The “new” outlook is also god awful. I’d rather use the OWA.
It’s the worst and has been running like total crap for years. Even Skype for business worked better. Luckily it is better than Cisco Jabber or Webex.
My boss puts it best. WebEx for Calling, Zoom for Meetings and Teams for Collaboration (the actual Teams function).
I used Webex at my last job, it was pretty decent.
Too fuckin right m8
As if there’s a single lead developer behind MS Teams. There’s probably like 100+ devs working on it in a dozen teams or more.
Do you really think it had that much attention?
1 PO, 1 BA and a part time dev split across teams. They’re also the QA.
Do you think the Microsoft Teams team uses Microsoft Teams in their teams to develop Microsoft Teams?
Probably, dogfooding is common.
I heard even the dev team behind MS SourceSafe didn’t use SourceSafe. I don’t blame them.
Bruh it was a placeholder cuz it took me a sec to find the meme lmao
Yeah I’m going to go ahead and record this meeting. Please speak up if you object. Because we’ve provided so much psychological safety that there will surely be no judgement or fear of reprisal for those with any hesitation to swim in line with the corporate current. We’re also going to share files in this chat that you’ll have to catalogue and remember - so when someone refers to a nondescript file shared 3 weeks ago you’ll be forced to know exactly which chat and file you’re referring to. Also, put yourself on video. We appreciate face to face communication.
That’s not really Teams fault though. Sounds more like a team issue than a Teams issue.
The work of the devil
I dont know… SharePoint has pissed me the hell off too, its a close one
I refuse to use that piece of crap. We have to use MS at work and they gave us free 10 TB with our volume license, and the only thing on it are documents saved by accident because it set itself up as default save as location on some clients without being asked for. Utter garbage.
Fun fact, teams backend is sharepoint. It’s just a fancy wrapper on top 🤡
Well now I just feel bad for the team behind teams 🤣
Since I have not seen anyone mention this problem yet: Teams doesn’t let you mute other people in a call for yourself. Obviously also no volume control per person. Imagine sitting next to your coworker in a teams meeting and having to deal with hearing them twice with like 20 ms delay. Awful.
What other video call apps let you do that? Teams lets you mute others for everyone, and I do that semi-regularly for the exact reason you cited.
In my experience, neither Slack nor other apps (that all blow Teams out of the water) can do that - except Discord, which isn’t exactly a common office meeting app.
Out of curiosity are any similar products actually good? My company uses Webex and frankly I’d rather use teams.
We used to use Slack + Zoom and had a much better experience than Teams.
Slack is better than Teams IMO, but I don’t know if I’d call it “good.”
Zulip is better than slack
I prefer Zulip but because we have Teams we use teams.
Zoom and Google Meets have both worked better for me.
My company switched from WebEx to Teams and while Teams is not great it’s way better than WebEx.
Within my actual team we just use Slack Huddles unless we have to record. For my personal stuff I prefer Jitsi.
No, no! Dogshit sometimes fertilizes and promotes growth. Microsoft teams is poison.
For the budding gardeners who might see this, do not use dogshit as fertilizer for the plants you eat.
I still don’t want it on my desk though.
Hey, poison has it’s uses too, unlike Teams.
I use it daily and think it’s excellent. Skype, on the other hand, is diabolical.
🌈You’re insane💫
