The Justice Department’s proposal to force Google to rein in and even sell off its Chrome browser business may seem like a win for competitors such as Mozilla’s Firefox browser. But the company says the plan risks hurting smaller browsers.
In their recommendations, federal prosecutors urged the court to ban Google from offering “something of value” to third-party companies to make Google the default search engine over their software or devices.
The problem is that Mozilla earns most of its revenue from royalty deals—nearly 86% in 2022—making Google the default Firefox browser search engine.
"If implemented, the prohibition on search agreements with all browsers regardless of size and business model will negatively impact independent browsers like Firefox and have knock-on effects for an open and accessible internet,” Mozilla says. “As written, the remedies will harm independent browsers without material benefit to search competition.”
tldr: but muh paycheck!
May I be frank? I suspect that, in the long run, Mozilla not getting this money will actually benefit Firefox. Sure, so exec will get pissed as they won’t get 5.6 million dollars a year, and Firefox won’t get some weird nobody-asked-for feature that’ll be ditched some time later; but I think that they’ll focus better on the browser this way. Specially because whoever is paying the dinner is the one picking the dish, and with a higher proportion of their effective income coming from donations, what users want will stop being so neglected.
Just my two cents.
I totally agree.
Frankly, Mozilla should be embarrassed to have released this statement.
It’s basically ‘Please don’t harm our competitor for corruptly bribing rivals! We like those bribes very much!’
Firefox won’t get some weird nobody-asked-for feature that’ll be ditched some time later
Nah, the features nobody asked for will just be limited to ones that will provide a revenue stream.
However once they lose the googlebux, a meaningful part of the revenue stream will be donations. And features implemented because of donators asking for them are, typically, things that we users desire.
Mozilla will be fine. I’ll literally pay them annually if worst comes to worst and I bet others would too.
what Mozilla is really afraid of is losing the over inflated bonus the execs get paid.
Mozilla needs to ditch their CEO and maybe even their board. They’ve lost their way all because the leadership is greedy
I understand why Mozilla would want to keep the money coming from Google, but it might also be good for them to be less dependent from Google.
Nothing is preventing them from cutting deals with other search engines if they want to keep doing that.
I feel like Mozilla is a big money laundering scheme at this point. It only exist so chrome isn’t a monopoly, and I pretty sure the CEO and several other workers are getting paid an obscene amount to do nothing all day while only 20% of the money actually goes toward working on the browser.
It really looks and feels like that.
It’s certainly better than the status quo. Sure, Mozilla will hurt at first because they’ve put their revenue source in the same basket, but it’s an opportunity to grow back.
You’ve just given a great summary of the history of breaking monopolies, really. History says you are correct. For example, AT&T is still kicking.
There are other search engines. Maybe Firefox can partner with them.
Mozilla should partner with Kagi and bundle the browser with that search engine and share revenue
I’m guessing that once Google is prohibited from providing incentives, the bottom will fall out of that particular market and those other search engines will likely pay less, if anything, for the privilege.
Would other search engines be able to “pay to be default”? My understanding is if this went through then browsers wouldn’t be able to take money from any search engine to be the default.
As I understand google is only prohibited from doing so because they are a monopoly and this would be abuse of their position, so smaller engines should be unaffected. For example, if I recall correctly, bing pays Vivaldi to be the default.
