• shoulderoforion@fedia.io
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    "Ok, lots of Russian trolls out and about.

    It’s entirely clear why the change was done, it’s not getting reverted, and using multiple random anonymous accounts to try to “grass root” it by Russian troll factories isn’t going to change anything.

    And FYI for the actual innocent bystanders who aren’t troll farm accounts - the “various compliance requirements” are not just a US thing.

    If you haven’t heard of Russian sanctions yet, you should try to read the news some day. And by “news”, I don’t mean Russian state-sponsored spam.

    As to sending me a revert patch - please use whatever mush you call brains. I’m Finnish. Did you think I’d be supporting Russian aggression? Apparently it’s not just lack of real news, it’s lack of history knowledge too."

    fuck yes. fuck russia. fuck russians.

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      So, basically it’s enough to say “Fuck Russia, Fuck Russians” here and it gains you massive support.

      Seriously?

      First, how does this fuck Russia the state?

      Second, what everyday Russians have to do with it? What justifies sneaking in hate messages to a diverse ethnic group with no single ideology?

      Saying “Fuck Russians” is about the same as “Fuck Jews” because Israel has done bad things. This is not okay.

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        It’s just people can’t do anything to stop Russia or at least help Ukraine. Although the latter is possible, but it’d require some effort. Writing and upvoting “fuck Russia” on social media is easy and that makes them feel better.

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        Our countries welcome Ukrainian refugees.

        I am friends with Russians in my country.

        Russiana living here sneak benefits by saying they are Ukrainians.

        The majority of Russians living here voted for Putin polls have shown.

        Some Russians denounce our media and only watch Russian state TV.

        So if they can’t adapt after beeing here for decades I tend to believe that the Russian common sense differs immensly from ours. And therefore I agree with this propaganda: Fuck Russia.

        They talk about eachother on the highest level but Russian citizens - here or in Russia - do not form loud critique. If my Brother was jailed for critique I would apread the word in my circles who would spread the word… WE IN THE WEST WOULD MAKE US HEARD.

        Russians benefiting from the lower prices just agree with their government and apparently do not care about their country killing innocent people.

        So fuck Russians as well.

        • Obviously not every Russian is stupid or bad. But if they want to get out of their war, they have to speak up. This is exactly what they demand from other countries with inner conflicts.
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        I think it’s pretty reasonable and okay for Palestinians to yell “Fuck Jews” IMHO

        I wouldn’t want them to go genociding back, but breaking ties in collaboration would be very fair and reasonable

    • mizuki@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 months ago

      fuck russians? fuck the Russian government and the people who support it, not all the russians.

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      You should approach the same fuck first approach to Israel and the us with what they are doing in Gaza and Lebanon while you are at it. That would show your adherence to standard behaviour in the light of current genocides going on.

      Sure Russia is bad so fuck Russia but do you have the balls or boobs to say fuck Israel ?

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        If you think caring about one tragedy means ignoring another, that’s a ‘you’ problem.

        People who actually care about human suffering don’t play the ‘whataboutism’ game—because it’s not a contest, it’s a crisis. Your deflection isn’t advocacy; it’s just lazy, performative outrage disguised as moral high ground.

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        Yes, fuck Israel and fuck Russia. Not sure why I’m responding to this dumb bait, but here we are. It’s not a straw man argument when both countries are run by literal human feces

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        It’s even funnier when we realize Russia is possibly the reason there even is an Israel-Palestine conflict.

        Jews fled Russia between 1880 and 1920. While a large majority emigrated to the United States, some turned to Zionism. In 1882, members of Bilu and Hovevei Zion made what came to be known the First Aliyah to Palestine, then a part of the Ottoman Empire.

        The Tsarist government sporadically encouraged Jewish emigration. In 1890, it approved the establishment of “The Society for the Support of Jewish Farmers and Artisans in Syria and Palestine”[51] (known as the “Odessa Committee” headed by Leon Pinsker) dedicated to practical aspects in establishing agricultural Jewish settlements in Palestine.

        Source

        So they encouraged and supported those settlements.

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          And I’m pretty sure they indirectly triggered the ongoing conflict, where hamas attacked israel in 2023 october.