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  • Name one socialist/communist nation that hasn’t been growth based industrialist economy? I think anything growth based is not gonna happen much longer, due to energy shortage, habitat loss, climate change, running out of critical minerals etc.

    Sure I’m open for some degrowth socialism but don’t really believe that’s the way things gonna work out.


  • Eventually but I think society might need to collapse and rebuild in between, and that supporting this level of complex civilization isn’t gonna be possible, nor IMO desirable.

    This is not to say we would go back to being cavemen, just that society has less tech and energy at its disposal and less people.

    I guess we could get there without collapse, but I have zero faith in any kind of degrowth moment despite agreeing with it ideologically. This would help us avoid much death and suffering but it doesn’t seem to be priority for anyone in power.