Ok that is fair. I commented on someone elses comment here that they should try out PeerTube, as that is a decentralized option with all the benefits of the fediverse.

hey, I know this funi! I’ve seen this guy on 196 before!

Yes

hey woah there why are you using evil speech now, did I say something wrong? The only reason I mentioned china was cuz I wanted to differentiate between cool foss community driven thing and evil cooperate state driven thing.
I wasn’t trying to make china seem bad, it just was the case that they have some influence. To me, it’s really just the propaganda part and potential censorship, but that’s it.

The thing with Lemmy I do understand. Then again, there are other instances which are have less or even no censorship.

If I said something else which made you mad, please tell me what it was. I’m not the best with picking up on this stuff.

the tiktok part was really interesting. thank you for sharing!

I feel like that would compare two very different types of social media:

• Consumption oriented: Platforms which mainly tailor to consumers, like Tiktok, Pinterest, Instagram and Youtube.
• Collaboration oriented: Platforms where engagement with the content and discussions are encouraged, like Lemmy and Mostodon and their proprietary equivalents.

It’s very sad to see general social media platforms go that route. Twitter, Facebook and Instagram are unusable without an account.

Yeah that’s a fair point. The I use it because others do argument is very strong, and I’m assuming that is also why most people are still using Facebook and Twitter.

I have also seen some German Youtubers say, that they’d like to join Mastodon, but that the whole “instance” thing is too confusing to get behind, not understand that you just pick one with your interests, and off you go.

The closest thing to Youtube would probably be PeerTube. It feels a bit like how Youtube used to be, with some randos just making the content they want to.

Have a very similar experience with Mastodon-like platforms. These feel more like announcement-sites rather than actual social media platforms.

How do you use Mastodon?

I have tried to engage with it more multiple times, but I tend to not get anywhere. Is it like instagram, where you gotta subscribe to some hashtags?

Hm, what an interesting combo. Using both the open and community-empowered Lemmy and the china-controlled ad-driven Tiktok. A combination I haven’t seen yet!

Hosting video material is pretty expensive I guess…

Do you find that Tiktok attracts more neurodivergent and queer people than Lemmy? Perhaps consider switching instances? I do understand the convenience of video content though.

I have seen all kinds of people use Tiktok for many different purposes.
My brother uses it like the average zoomer, for the funi fortnite dances, omg rofl he said the thing posts and honiposts. (he’s 13)
My father uses it for tips and tricks on stuff. Most posts he gets recommended don’t seem bad at all. Of course it’s the people who make the platform great, not the owners.

It feels super weird having used Lemmy for a while, and to then come back to something like Youtube, which does have it’s proprietary algorithm thingy. So weird seeing content I didn’t explicitely agree to seeing.

Facebook appears to be a common ground for many replies on this post, which I find very interesting.

I see it very similarly, it feels good having the users of the platforms actually create the platforms themselves.
The way how Facebook is trying to get into this with their Threads or whatever it’s called feels very unnatural. Thankfully I haven’t seen any people from there over here.

The way how people can create their own instances is super fun. It feels like what people call the Reddit hivemind, but actually realized by the people from within it.

I feel that Matrix and Lemmy go really nicely together. There are already some integrations, which let you link from your Lemmy to your Matrix account.
It’s nice that Lemmy directly tells you “These messages are not secure” and recommends Matrix.
If this were driven by a cooperation, they would say “blablabla it’s so secure you can trust us with your data blablabla” but no! This is the fediverse, where people can do what they want to!

Over here, they are self-aware and link to Matrix, which is so refreshing. This kind of open collaboration between projects is beautiful I think.

Also yeah, Mastodon feels weirdly… empty? I use it sometimes and despite it’s apparently larger userbase, I cannot seem to find a good starting point.
Then again, I also didn’t quite understand Twitter, so maybe that’s it.

I see it the exact same way!

The way that the fediverse is split up like this, with many instance working with different rulesets really does make it feel like some neighbourhood people coming together to chat.

I especially like the way how, why you chose an instance, you can either stay within the bounds of your own local group, or interact with all the people by switching over to the “subscribed” tab (at least this is the case here on blahaj zone).

Very interesting. I do still see many posts originating from Reddit around here, presumably exactly because of that reason.

But I must tell you, making your own funis and ideas and putting them onto Lemmy feels really great.
It feels like an invitation to discuss the topic with others and come up with new ideas, instead of feeding other peoples algorithms and keep them hooked on the site.

It feels much more like interacting with real actual people, even if there are less on here.

Same! The “lack of content” is really refreshing somehow.

Not having some proprietary algorithm spoon-feed you content is very nice. It literally only shows you exactly what you tell it to.