Depending on how the next four years go I’m on the fence between Bush Jr. and Trump but I’d like to hear from you

Edit:

Top 10 suggestions so far (unordered):

  • Andrew Jackson
  • Andrew Johnson
  • George W. Bush Jr
  • Ronald Reagan
  • Richard Nixon
  • James K. Polk
  • Woodrow Wilson
  • James Buchanan
  • Franklin Pierce
  • Donald J. Trump
  • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
    41·
    3 days ago
    1. Lincoln
    2. FDR
    3. Washington
    4. Teddy Roosevelt
    5. Jefferson
    6. Eisenhower
    7. Truman
    8. JFK
    9. LBJ
    10. Obama

    JFK would have been top 5 if he hadn’t been gunned down 2 years into his presidency 😭

    @zyratoxx@lemm.ee

    I prefer talking about the best, talking about the worst just makes me depressed.

    • Zyratoxx@lemm.eeOP
      3·
      2 days ago

      I prefer talking about the best, talking about the worst just makes me depressed.

      Oh I totally get where you’re coming from. I usually use my lemm.ee account for when I’m stable enough for discussion (because lemm.ee is still federated with both hexbear and 'grad and .world and the more pro western servers which helps me train my critical thinking and arguing) but sometimes I just don’t want any more negativity or politicised battlegrounds and then I just use my .world account to spread the good vibes and enjoy the memes.

      Regarding JFK I heard he was a bit of a “you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain” kinda case but I also heard that he would have been a good president so I’m kinda split. It’s similar with William Henry Harrison, who was president for 31 days before he died. As a slave holder he would have probably been a horrible president but he never really made any calls so he’s not among the worst candidates.

      • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        2 days ago

        I definitely have to admit some pro JFK bias as an Irish American 😅

        But I obviously also have rationales for why I think he was a great president. Foremost among them is that I feel he was a truly independent political force that was beholden neither to his party nor to external interests. His popularity, wealth, and personal relationship with the American people gave him the potential to do radical things against the wishes of the entrenched oligarchy, which is possibly why he was assassinated. He demonstrated a willingness and a capacity to upend the established order.

        William Henry Harrison is often considered among the worst for the simple reason that he did die. Put on a coat mah boi, we didn’t elect your ass to get a cold and die instantly.

        because lemm.ee is still federated with both hexbear and 'grad and .world and the more pro western servers which helps me train my critical thinking and arguing

        I wish hexbear was more into debating and less into memeing. I find that they tend to run away from serious debate and prefer to troll. Honestly lemmygrad has seemed less annoying to me than hexbear lately because they seem more likely to take things seriously and make legitimate arguments. I don’t see too much of them because I’m usually on my main account and sjw blocks them.

        I use my account at lemmy.myserv.one in a similar way to your lemm.ee account, but since I’m an admin here I end up spending way more time on this account.

        • Zyratoxx@lemm.eeOP
          2·
          2 days ago

          I found trolls on both instances and rational people on both instances but yeah, the debating culture & communities is/are more on 'grad and ml whilst hexbear is for the more casual topics and my opinion on which instance as a whole is more rational is like a sine curve.

          Thanks for the explanation, my knowledge about American political history is fairly limited so I really appreciate that. \(^-^)/